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Posted: 9/18/2013 7:12:41 PM
   

Stationary Massey Harris Engines

Today I got this brochure in the mail and thought you guys would like to see some original advertising for the early Massey Type 1 engines. This is a very detailed book covering all the type 1 engines and many of the implements the Type 1 engines could power. The best part is this book came from the same dealership as my #2 Massey tractors. I will have to look in the sales sheets I have from the dealer to see if they sold any of these engines. 
Now I need a type 1 engine to go with my book....

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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:47:10 AM
   

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Hi  Tseaberg,  I have a MH Type 1 20 hp engine, large and heavy ( 2tonnes plus) . I have tried to find a serial number and the pin holes where the plate may have been fixed without success. I believe the very early small engines had no serial numbers.  It is a"pig" to start.  There is a small handle which folds away into the flywheel, suitable for the smaller engines but certainly not this monster.  To start I couple the flywheel with  a belt to the tractor, the engine fires up after getting it over the first compression and runs as new.   I bought the engine at the Domevalley Museum auction, built between 1902 -  1904 and used to pump water in the Sacramento Delta California. Can you confirm the build date?
With the the condition of the engine I don't think it pumped a gallon of water, surmise the operators were unable to start it. The engine part numbers. ----
 Main brgs (2) AA264 
 Flywheels (2) AA269. ( 42" dia.)
 Crankcase cover. AA271
 Crankcase   AA379
  exhaust Rocker arm. AA270. (45" long)
Connecting Rod   AA268
 Piston. 10" dia.   Stroke. 10"
There is gear wheel (17" dia. with 32 teeth)  fixed to the inside of RHS flywheel   Nothing was ever matched up the gear as there are no signs of wear.
  Any further information will be appreciated




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Posted: 9/18/2014 11:09:21 AM
   

RE:Stationary Massey Harris Engines

The serial number plate on the type 1 engines was on the crank guard or splash guard over the crank.  These were commonly removed and never put back on the engine.  Your part numbers are definitely type 1,  20HP numbers. Type 1 engines were built from 1913 to about 1925.


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Posted: 9/18/2014 7:34:28 PM
   

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I would really like to see some more pictures of your engine if you can post some?
There is one poor photo of it in the sale bill from the museum. I assume it is still green?

From what little information I have heard is they did sometimes stamped the serial number in other locations besides the tag. Some places I would search is the end of the crankshaft. Also look at the top of the flange between the cylinder and base if the hopper is not in the way.

My book does show water pumps but nothing for engines bigger than 8h.p.


And one last thing. From what I can tell the 20 became the 15 in later years. The early books show the 12, 15 and 20 while the newer books show 10, 12 and 15 with all of the same dimensions just one size smaller on the h.p. rating. Unfortunately there is not many others to compare with.


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Posted: 9/18/2014 11:12:30 PM
   

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The large Type 1 engines are very impressive, very rarely seen out on the show fields.

Here are some photographs of a very nicely restored 12 HP often seen out in Canada.

Malcolm.

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