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Posted: 4/13/2013 11:24:28 AM
   

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I have one of each of the newer ones. The parts book does not give a different part number for these so I guess tracking them will be hard to tell when they changed.

I am sure if your clutch lnkage ever came loose on the old style ones it sure would be a pain!


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Posted: 4/13/2013 4:04:30 PM
   

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Joe, You are wrong mine does not have inspection cover. We need to have a look at the one in at the Smithsonian Museum.

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Posted: 4/13/2013 6:00:53 PM
   

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I have been talking to Allan Currie and he has looked at his Cub jr and it has the inspection cover.


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Posted: 4/15/2013 7:10:41 AM
   

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Some very interesting Wallis discussion been going on here recently, I have been watching and digesting with great interest, please keep it coming.

Malcolm.


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Posted: 4/15/2013 2:02:56 PM
   

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Joe, I was hoping you might have an explanation for my Cub jr having the earlier transmission housing, one interesting thing is the hitch has very little wear like the engine yet the master pinion gears are very worn on one side of the teeth and have been turned so they are running on the good side.

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Posted: 4/15/2013 2:21:22 PM
   

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Malcolm, I hope you can contribute to this discussion very soon.


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Posted: 4/15/2013 4:41:12 PM
   

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Well I think we hae just about worked our way through all of the changes on the Cub JR. So I thought we would talk about the K for a while.
First change is pretty obvious but they used several different engine blocks. First is just plain on the side. second has Wallis cast into it but still has the non removable timing cover. And the last style has wallis cast onto it and a removable timing cover. There were several changes in the timing covers but I have not seen enough of them to know the difference! Maybe somebody out there will know.

The early ones with non removable timing cover I have been calling solid blocks and the newer removable timing cover split block so if I change what I call them thats why.

According to the parts book the first two styles of the solid blocks with and without the wallis name have the same part number and were used from the start up to #16186. so that would be the first 2186 K-3's and K's. part number is 9022A

The newer split block then started at 16187 and went up with a part number of #9028
Wallis used two different timing covers. First was used from #16187-#22768 with a part number of 7159A and the other one used from #22768 and up was #7182A.
I do not know the exact difference but I will do some more research.




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Posted: 4/15/2013 7:22:13 PM
   

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Tom, I didn`t know production Ks had plain blocks, I guess it was a case of using up old stock again. That maybe explains the earlier transmission housing on our Cub jr. If you look closely at the picture of the K below it has a different looking steering box, have you seen one like this?

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Posted: 4/16/2013 6:33:02 PM
   

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Graham and I were talking on the phone tonight and got talking about serial number tags so I thought I would put this on here.
The K serial number tag had several variations and locations throughout production.

The first was the hardest to find original for us untill joe found this one in NE. This early tag was mounted on the left side of the frame in a poor location leading to nearly all of them being lost. The serial number tag lined up almost perfect with a drive belt off the pulley and I am guessing almost all of them got ripped off by the belt. These were used on all of the solid block K's and a very few early split block k's, I have only seen one of them.

Next is an unusual tag for Wallis tractors as it is opposite when compared with other tags. these were use for very few tractors from about 17000-18000 I think. I have seen two styles of this tag both mounted on the front of the frame

And last is the most common tag used on the K's. These were also on the front of the frame.

I am still looking to find #17594, This was the K sold in Yuma and I have lost track of it since the sale,


  

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Posted: 4/16/2013 8:22:38 PM
   

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Tom:

The first tag is the same tag as on my Cub jr wide front. The second tag with the "We want the public to know" wording ground off I can't figure out why they did this but I have seen several others the same way. Maybe there was some misspelling on them so they just ground it off so they could still use them??

The Wallis Model K that was in Yuma Serial # 17594 Don't know who bought it but it sold for $4,000.00 on the sale. This wasn't the tractor Ervin bought from the guy on his way home is it?

Joe


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