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Posted: 12/20/2013 9:07:32 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

As 2013 draws almost to a close here is the start of putting parts on the shelf ready for the long term rebuild projects of the two Cub Juniors shown above.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 4/28/2014 6:08:01 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

Malcolm,
I am not sure if this Bennett J 1.1/2 carburetor will work on a Cub jr as it looks a little different to yours. In the parts book they list  K 1 1/4,  J 1 1/4 and DDC 1 1/4(Kerosene) but in the specifications in the Cub jr brochure it says it has a Bennett 1 1/2.

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Posted: 4/28/2014 6:45:49 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

Tom,
This J 1 1/2 carburetor bolts on our Cub jr intake manifold that has the Bennett H 1 1/4 carburetor, the position of the bolts seems to be the same.

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Posted: 4/28/2014 7:35:00 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

The carburetor I have looks a lot like the one on this picture of this very early Cub jr, if you look closely there are a few differences on this one.
The position of the bolts on the block and U frame is different, there are some extra riviets and lack of water return to the engine. There is also an extra piece at the rear corner of the block.

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Posted: 5/7/2014 3:31:13 AM
   

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It is amazing there has not been one of these early tractors shown up somewhere around the world Graham, I wonder how the water circulated? is the bulge on the rear of the block connected to the water jacket?
Also note on your close up view there is no governor rod from the diaphragam to the carburetor and there appears to be a direct throttle linkage to the carb with no connection to the governor?

Let's hope one shows up somewhere in the future.

Malcolm.


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Posted: 6/18/2014 5:35:41 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

A few months has passed since the last up date on the Cub Junior projects, so thought it was time to show you some photographs of the latest pieces for the rebuild which arrived on the back of a lorry from Kent during our recent Carrington Rally.

Many thanks to the West family for their help in locating a Company to roll six rear wheel rims, the difficulty they encountered was finding someone who was prepared to roll them with the correct curve on the outer lip of the rim, the end result was absolute perfection.

Malcolm.


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Posted: 6/18/2014 5:51:03 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

Very nice Malcolm!! Why did you need six? is there another Cub jr your not telling us about?? Don't throw the old rims away as you know you can cut sections and make at least one or possibly two good rims out of them for the future. If that sounds like too much work you can also cut the bottom off and level it out then put some wood boards in between and make a very nice display shelf for your small trinkets..

Keep up the good work!!

Joe


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Posted: 6/18/2014 6:57:15 PM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

It never ceases to amaze me the resources that some of you are able to come up with to reproduce the parts necessary to revive our old iron.  My hat's off to you.

Well done, Malcolm!

JB


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Posted: 6/20/2014 1:32:40 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

Joe,

The other two new rear wheel rims are for the ex John Moffit original import Cub Jnr to the UK which is currently under extensive restoration by the West family in Kent, the rear wheels on that one are not tapered spokes, the spokes are the wide parallel version just like the British Wallis wheel and it has different axles too with extensions, they wondered if the tractor at some time in it's life had an hay sweep attached to the back axles.

Just a bit more Cub Junior conversation I have been going to add onto here for a while is the radiators,
Many years ago I was given a Cub Junior radiator and water pump from a tractor which was scrapped in the South Wales area, it was put int the back of the shed and left, when my two projects arrived from France almost a year ago now there was one radiator lying on top of the tractor, I then got them both together and realise we have several differences.

The British radiator pictured on the left of the photograph has a tube and fin core, the top and bottom tanks are made from brass and note the course British thread on the filler cap and neck.

The French radiator pictured on the right of the photograph is identical to the ones I have seen in North America with honeycomb core, all steel construction and a very fine thread on the filler neck.

Has anyone come across this before? 

I know Ervin is reproducing these radiator parts in both steel and brass, but when I discussed it with him he felt the brass ones were replacements, I know the British one I have was original, so we have another conundrum.
Was some tractors shipped to UK as skid units?, less radiators, manifolds, carburetors and possibly rear wheels, as many of you have seen these differences on British tractors.

Malcolm.


 

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