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Posted: 6/3/2013 3:05:02 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

The next part of the process was to get them back to Lincolnshire, I was thinking of a trip across to collect them myself, but a busy work schedule together with our Carrington Rally coming up did not leave me much time and not speaking any French I decided to have them collected by a gentleman who lives in France and travels across here regularly to visit his parents, sometimes with a M-H Pony on his trailer.

He asked if there was a forklift, tractor with loader or crane available to load, when we got a reply from France they wanted additonal money to load by crane!!!! when he got there I can see why, they were in the scrap yard surrounded by old iron, he would never of got his trailer near to them as you will see from the attached photgraphs, the crane money was well worth it in the end and note the picture of the scrap helicopter just sitting on the roadside.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 6/3/2013 7:23:07 AM
   

RE:Wallis Cub Photograph Dated 1912

Well done Malcolm!  A flying Wallis is certainly a first!!!!

John


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Posted: 6/4/2013 5:40:26 AM
   

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It will certainly be a while before they fly under their own power John and many happy hours or "labour of love".

Anyway here is the next set of photographs, Tuesday 21st May they arrived here in my yard and the driver's father was really enjoying himself taking the straps off their unusual load, apparently one of the Customs Officers at the border shook his head and asked what was on the trailer!

So Graham they are now here for your inspection when you are next across this side of the pond and hopefully John will be across on a visit later this month, he is bringing our "Wallis / M-H Master Machinist" Billy to preview some of his future workload, hope it does not cause him too many sleepless nights!!!

Malcolm.


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Posted: 6/4/2013 11:36:48 AM
   

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Malcolm:

Congratulations on finally getting your new toys home!! Now you can get a good nights rest.... Looks like the one with no engine is also missing the rear cover so possibly we will never know the serial number of that one??? Or did you get the cover and tag with it?? The other with the engine still in should be stamped so you may luck out even if the tag on the back is missing. Looks like at least one of them has the three holes in the side of the frame for the oil return so it must be pretty early, I can't tell from the pictures if the other one had it or not. Does the one with the engine have the lifters cast into the block?

You better get your nose to the grindstone as we expect to see at least one of them running on our next visit if not both of them....... But do take your time no rush, I have just as much fun looking at a non running tractor as a running one.

Joe






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Posted: 6/5/2013 7:49:22 AM
   

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When you are next over here Joe you need to plan to stay a few more weeks then we can get to work on these two lifetime projects.

Attached are a few more photographs of them unloaded and to put all your minds at rest the number on the block is 10339, the brass tag is missing and broken off with the rivets still there.
Both tractors have the early oiling system and like your latest find the camshaft lifters are cast into the block.
Unfortunately no cast cover with the one on three wheels, so doubt we will ever know it's number.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 6/5/2013 7:55:36 AM
   

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Here are a few more photographs showing the early cranking dog, round clutch cross shaft with pin etc as discussed on Joe's recent find.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 6/5/2013 4:20:48 PM
   

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Your new project looks very promising Macolm, We are all happy for you finding a deal like this!

Are you planning on restoring both tractors eventually? Are you missing many major parts still? I don't see a second transmission but it might not have been in the pictures yet.

My Cub JR project is going to get a little bit of work soon now that the #2's are well on their way. Hopefully there will be some good new parts by winter time.



 


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Posted: 6/6/2013 8:52:40 AM
   

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I hope one day to have both these up and running Tom, they will both be long term projects, may even be my retirement tractors!!!
I am not in any rush, whilst finding parts and adding to the ones I aready have I am sure there will be some great conversation from these finds, not many early tractors left over here coming off the farm or or out of the scrap yard now, most are in the hands of collectors or dealers and appear at the large collective or collector retirement auctions.

Pleased to hear you are progressing some of your major restoration projects too, amazing what work is being done in a very quiet way all over the world for the preservation of old iron.

Malcolm.


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Posted: 7/10/2013 6:30:18 AM
   

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Whilst the website has been down recently there has been some great information coming to the fore on the British Cub Juniors.

Ervin recently asked about gas tank cap location recently whilst making me a new one, he mentioned centre or rear position as seen on some photographs.

Well blow up and check out these very recent find original UK photgraphs of a tractor in the field, you will see the additional gas / petrol tank fitted to the rear of the usual large square tank, just the same petrol tank as fitted to the British Wallis here in UK.
So I think this answers the filler cap at the rear conundrum,

Thes excellent photgraphs have been taken from original glass slides found recently by a UK collector and thought they would interest me with my latest project Cub Juniors.

Digest the photo's and we have more to discuss later.

Malcolm.







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Posted: 7/10/2013 8:24:09 AM
   

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Nice photos Malcolm.  In the picture on the right are you able to make out what the decals are on the back of the moldboards?  I tried blowing them up but couldn't make out what they were.

Rick


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