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Posted: 1/5/2013 2:26:14 PM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

Hi Graham, when I get home tomorrow I will get you some numbers for your 25 list. I must have at least 10 numbers off red 25's


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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:18:10 AM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

Very good observation Graham, it will be interesting to see how many surviving tractors you list, I am sure there are a large percentage of the what was produced surviving and the majority of them seemed to spend their working life in Western Canada, so you are in the right area to locate more. In the 20 years I have been travelling North America and Canada it is amazing how they are gradually re distributing around the world.

So the three original UK imports are 74386, 74745 and 74748, In the mid 1980's I had the remains of one from Nicholson's of Faldingworth who you will remember well, I could not find any trace of the serial number but often wondered if it was 46 or 47 as I am sure it would be a batch sent over here on Lease Lend.

Others now known here are, 71540, 73005, 73135, 73276, 73896, 74700 (H VMc Kay)
85154, 85236, 85329 and 85398

Keep us posted of progress and if I can find some photo's of the Faldingworth tractors I had in the 80's I will post them here to refresh your memories of life in Lincolnshire

Malcolm



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Posted: 1/7/2013 8:07:32 AM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

Graham,

Last night I found these three photographs taken in March 1992, when I collected the remains of the styled red 25 and red Pacemaker from Jack Nicholson's.

The 25 gearbox has been used for parts in the last two years for the mechanical rebuild of both my green and red 25, so it goes to prove "never scrap anything which may be of use" you just never know when you may need it.

Malcolm.


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Posted: 1/7/2013 10:34:12 AM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

Malcolm,

Next time you tow a Massey home can you please do it with a Massey or else exclude other colours from the photo.  This sort of thing could lose you sleep!

John


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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:55:47 AM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

John,

Twenty years on and hopefully this form of "Massey transport" will make you feel much better!!!

All manufacturer's go through their "ups and downs" and I am pleased to say I have no blue ones around now, so hopefully I will not lose any sleep.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 1/8/2013 4:05:05 AM
   

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Malcolm,

That is a decidedly classier act.  But you could take it a step further and substitute the modern MF with the veteran Wallis Cub and recreate the road trains that Wallis used to use in their ads?

John


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Posted: 1/8/2013 7:06:04 AM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

Malcolm:

I have seen this trailer in person and it seems to be the best way for hauling a tractor of this size in your area but after looking at the pictures it just accured to me that the toung weight on that must be emence.... The Sawyer Massey must go arround 12,000 lbs + the weight of the trailer, I know alot of the weight is on the rear tires but there still has to be alot on the toung. Does it handle down the road alright?? or does it start boating?? I know you have plenty of power in front of it so that is not a problem, just wondering if it starts to sway at all??

Either way it is a great display of the Young taking care of and looking after the Elders.....

Joe


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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:20:44 PM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

Joe and Jojo,

Thank you both for the package which arrived here on the doorstep this morning, Happy New Year to you both and all your family.

Joe,

This "hydraulic low loader" trailer as we call them here is ideal for moving large tractors and pieces of farm machinery, lowered flat to the ground they are very easy to load, the tractors are pushed up the front over the (tongue) or drawbar with a solid push pole from the front drawbar of the towing tractor of which you get good visibility of what you are doing from the drivers seat.
For loading the Wallis Cub I made a frame which attaches to the front hydraulic linkage of the towing tractor and lifts the Cub front end under the front fork, then the tractor is pushed onto the bed of the trailer, again easy to see from the drivers seat what you are doing.

The low loader is rated to carry 18,000 lbs and when loaded pulls very well and straight at speeds of up to 50 kilometres per hour, which is the max speed of our new M-F 7616 gearbox, the M-F front axle suspension greatly helps the smoothness of the ride. Yes there is a fair bit of drawbar weight which is carried on the tractor pick up hitch drawbar, but when you consider we carry tanden axle 36,000 lb fully loaded rated farm trailers on the same hitches this low loader is easy work for the tractor. With the wheels being at the back you have to remember the turning circle is huge and it really cuts the corners on our narrow roads and entrance gateways, that is the only fault otherwise a very useful form of transport.

The new M-F 7616 tractor we had new in September won the "Tractor of The Year" award for 2012 in UK and Massey proudly put a transfer on the side of the hood to let everyone know, you know Massey never missed an advertising trick. 

The new suspension as mentioned before is just marvellous and I tell our sales rep from M-F it is nothing new, just an electrical and hydraulic improvement of the Wallis Cub suspension of 1912, 100 years later.

Malcolm.
  

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Posted: 1/8/2013 2:50:42 PM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

Hi Malcolm.

Great pics of the Sawyer, the MF and the trailer.  I will tell you the same thing as John - great pictures, neat story and very different than what we see in the US.  Would you be willing to write a short story about this for the MCA Clipper???  Something like this would bring more members to the web site, I am sure!!

Thanks

Gary


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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:21:29 AM
   

RE:Valve Spring Failure on Massey 25

Here are a few more photo's of the "young taking care of the oldest " Joe,

I hope that having both ends of the Massey age spectrum in these photo's helps to keep more of the viewers interested in coming back to the website more frequently.

Malcolm.

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