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Posted: 4/16/2013 3:27:55 AM
   

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We have already seen the M-H Dickie seat John posted earlier, so here is another Massey family seat.

This one is the "Dickie" seat from William DIckie of East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland, who were manufacturers of windmills, pumps and farm machinery for the agricultural industry, this seat will be pre Second World War, before their association and marketing agreement with Massey Harris.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 4/17/2013 3:50:07 AM
   

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Another not so often seen cast iron seat is the M-H SU4, this seat has no markings on the front side of the seat, turn it over and the markings in the casting are underneath.

For display purposes I painted the <M-H> SU4 on the front side.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 4/17/2013 12:14:23 PM
   

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We now come to the Massey "Rake" seats.  There are three of these.

The first is the oldest and simply marked the Rake.  I believe that the origin of these "Rake" seats lies in the Ithaca steel dump rake that was produced at  the Massey works from 1869 and was the first automatic horse dump rake to be produced in Canada - and at Massey's then Newcastle, Ontario factory.  I believe that this first seat pre dates this production by Massey and was probably by some original "Ithaca company" - but I am open to correction on this.  There are no Massey markings on this seat.

Another possibility is that in 1874 Massey secured the rights for Sharp's self dumping rake - a machine that had one of the longest production runs of Massey equipment.  Again I would welcome any info.

John

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Posted: 4/18/2013 2:30:06 AM
   

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Here is the second Rake seat.  It's the "Rake Newcastle" so I am presuming that it is post 1869 and when Massey was still in his original factory at Newcastle, Ontario, Canada - the real birth place of all things Massey.  It's a small town well worth a visit. 

You can see the old factory - now old folks homes and shops but marked Massey, the graves of the Massey family are nearby as is Daniel Massey's House.  And to give credit where it is due there is the excellent Massey Restaurant just round the corner.  A short walk away is the Massey Hall donated to the community by the Massey family - quite an architectural splendour.  It's well worth half a day of mooching around.

Graham - have you made a visit here yet??

John


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Posted: 4/18/2013 9:51:00 AM
   

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John, No I haven`t yet but I would very much like to, infact after living in Canada for 14 years the only place I have visited in Ontario is the airport.


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Posted: 4/19/2013 1:43:52 AM
   

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Here is the third of the Massey "Rake" seats - the Rake Toronto.  So this must date to fater Massey moved from his first Newcastle works to his new Toronto works which was founded in 1879 some 12 years before Massey merged with Harris to form Massey-Harris.

This will be my last post on this thread as I have now run out of seats.  Malcolm may have a few more.  I still have a few more to find and only yesterday I was with a seat collector who showed me two HV McKay Australian seats that I now "Need"!!!!

Malcolm did mention a Massey Buckeye seat.  Anyone know if this is our Massey???

I hope you have all enjoyed this thread.  I think for the first time this pulls together the majority of Massey and related company seats.

John

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Posted: 4/22/2013 12:24:51 PM
   

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Here is an Australian HV McKay seat that I found in a friends collection.  Notice the holes in the rim of the seat.  This is what makes it different from the one I posted earlier - identical but with no holes

John

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Posted: 4/24/2013 1:33:39 AM
   

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As John mentioned earlier I think we have almost exhausted all the Massey related  cast iron seats. Here is a photo of the M-H S572.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 4/24/2013 2:22:52 AM
   

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I have just been through this very informative thread this morning  and notice we have not covered one of the Balckstone of Stamford England seats with the Massey connection.

If anyone else has or knows of other M-H related seats please post away.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 4/24/2013 8:51:00 AM
   

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In the shed this afternoon I stumbled upon one more seat that I had forgotten.  It is the HV McKay Massey Harris seat that they fitted to their Sunshine 6B binders.  Many of these came over to the UK during the war.  It is a plain tin seat with no markings.

For this one I have had a new centre fitted to it as the old one was rotten.

John

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