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Posted: 5/3/2013 8:31:12 PM
   

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I think this is some of the snow that I had on "Back Order" from February for the Whiz-N-Day!!

Hope It doesn't look like this at the Auction tomorrow.....

Joe


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Posted: 5/5/2013 4:49:33 PM
   

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I was working on my new K today and noticeda difference in hood tags I have not seen before. On the early Wallis K's they used a hood tag that said Wallis Tractor Company on the bottom, but on these tags there seems to be some that have a letter designation on the top left side. I have seen hood tags that say K on them and I thought it just meant that was the model but this one has a G there. After looking back at some pictures there are others with G on them, and some with none. So I thought could G mean gas and K kerosine? We may never know?

 

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Posted: 5/22/2013 10:25:46 PM
   

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With a little Photoshop magic here's the negative pic in postive form

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Posted: 6/3/2013 9:03:56 PM
   

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Just added 3 more to the collection today a Massey Harris 12-20 SN 105077 a Model K Wallis SN 20236 and a Wallis 20-30 sold in Canada SN 58512. Check out the Serial number of the 20-30 and the front cover of this # 26 book, Don't get much closer than that too often!!!

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Posted: 6/4/2013 1:33:44 AM
   

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Well done Joe and a very nice looking group of three additions there. When are you pouring cement for your next building?? your shed must be bursting at the doors!!

It is amazing how many Wallis tractors have surfaced from many years of hibernation this year, 2013 must be a lucky year for us Wallis M-H collectors and guess if they come in three's like your latest haul then another Cub Junior should be heading my way!!

Any progress on your latest Jnr project?

Malcolm.



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Posted: 6/15/2013 7:27:18 PM
   

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Working on the little 12-20 today and pulled a big goof up...... I was getting the engine unstuck and making good progress, I heard some grinding and cracking but did not think much of it at all as I thought it was the magneto selfdistruckting as it was smashed and in bad shape. once I got it to turn over nicely with the crank I was very happy until I took a closer look inside and noticed I shelled all the teeth that drive the oil pump off the camshaft  *^%$#@ I wouldn't in a million years thought this was possible with this tractor as it looked well oiled inside the lower end of the engine not rusty like most I work on. I can't believe that oil pump was that stuck but aparently it was, now I have alot more work to do on this one....

Joe


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Posted: 6/16/2013 6:47:56 AM
   

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Sorry to hear that Joe, hope you have another camshaft in your parts pile?

I too had a similar experience several years ago on a Green PA, but guess I was luckier than you as it sheared off the end slot on the oil pump drive shaft which was much easier to repair than the camshaft, so now I always drop the oil pump and drive shaft before attempting to turn the crank, I know it's hard to resist cranking as soon as you find a new toy, as that's how most test to see if an engine is seized. You will be amazed how much rust and crud gets into those oil pumps over the years of standing, then there is no way those gears will turn and something has to give.

Auctions with none running tractors are the worst place for this sort of thing, tractors dragged out from the back of the barn and every man admiring them wants to turn them over, I have often wondered how many get damaged that way.

Hope you are at the low point now, it will get better and hope you soon have her running Joe, all this will soon be forgotten then. Looks like it is one with Wallis cast into the block., they are a nice running little tractor.

Malcolm.




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Posted: 6/16/2013 9:14:05 AM
   

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Malcolm:

This tractor is the Massey Harris 12-20, Do you know it it is possible to get the camshaft out without taking the engine out of the frame? It looks as though if I can get the front pulley off that the front timing cover may lift out the top without having to pull the engine out of the frame. I talked with Tom and he said there is no way to get the cam out of a Challenger without pulling the engine out or lifting the front up. I have never had an engine out of a 12-20 yet so just wondering if someone out there knew the answer to this?

I do have a spare camshaft or two for this it's just a shame I had to wreak such a good looking cam.

Joe







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Posted: 6/17/2013 7:53:05 AM
   

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Joe,

I have never taken the timing cover off a 12-20 with the engine still in the frame, so worth a try as you say, if it wont come off the baffle then maybe take out all the side engine and gearbox plus back housing bolts, undo the oil feed pipe and just lift up the front of the engine slightly to get the cover off the gears and baffle.

Let us know how you get on.

Malcolm.


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Posted: 6/17/2013 8:00:18 PM
   

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I went on a little trip Friday to pick up some new Wallis valves and look at some tractors.
Came home with two sets of valves and a set of front wheels.

In the valve picture there is two new valves next to a NOS one on the right. These combined with new valve springs and some chevy parts Joe and I will have new cylinder heads both going on Cub Jr's.



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