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Posted: 12/28/2013 7:56:27 PM
   

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The third style of front wheel on the 20-30 had a bigger hub like the one Buck pictured at his Dads. I have seen these with small lettering and some with bigger lettering on the hubs.
I had thought that these wheels appeared at the same time as the Kingston governor until the second 20-30 to be fitted with the Kingston governor came up for auction in November, it still has the small hubs.

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Posted: 12/29/2013 6:10:12 AM
   

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I have seen quite a few 20-30s that should have the small front hubs fitted with the bigger hub front wheels, I think this is the reason.
Most of the small hubs I have seen have loose spokes or have been welded.

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Posted: 12/30/2013 6:37:53 AM
   

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The forth style of front wheel on the 20-30 had a plain hub and tin cap instead of the cast one.
These wheels started from number 64156 onwards at the same time as the engine blocks went plain (with no Wallis lettering cast on them).

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Posted: 1/18/2014 2:49:08 PM
   

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Been too cold here to do anything lately I got all the snow blown for the day again. Thought I would do a little Wallis Fashion Modeling for the Wallis lover in you with my latest 1920s Wallis Tractor mechanics apron.

Joe

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Posted: 1/19/2014 1:06:08 PM
   

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Like your umbrella Joe, what another wonderful addition to your collection, well modelled on "The Wallis Catwalk" on a cold winter's day, you look the part and happy to be wearing it. Just don't get it too oily or you too will need a M-H washing machine out in the shed!!

Please keep that white stuff over there, we have not seen any in Lincolnshire so far this winter and hope we don't now.

Malcolm.


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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:54:55 PM
   

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Graham,

I see you were having a bit of trouble with clarifying Serial number 56121 as to if it were a Massey or Plow Works tractor I was looking through some of my pictures and found Tractor No 56196 with engine No 55725 so it is between the numbers you were talking about on Lugs & Cleats of 55846 and 56633 so this narrows it down just a bit more. I like this picture of this tractor it looks like it all pooped out and has it's Tung hanging out.

Joe 

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Posted: 3/13/2014 12:30:57 PM
   

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The only way we will find out if 56121 is a Plow Works or Massey is to find one a few numbers earlier that still has the tag.
Now the big question is did they make the switch from Case Plow Works to Massey Harris at number 56001?
Number 55867 which is slightly newer than ours is somewhere in Saskatchewan, so if someone knows of a Plow Works with a higher number please let us know.

Joe,

Straighten up the wheels, hood, fender and starting handle shaft on 56196 would make that a very nice looking original tractor.

Graham.





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Posted: 3/13/2014 1:56:48 PM
   

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I will try to keep an eye out for Wallis tractors in the late 55000 to early 56000 range it would be fun to find the exact point of change over.

While digging through my books I came across a page you don't see often. Usually you don't see much at all for connections between Jerome I. Case and Henry Wallis. and the reason I believe this to be is I really don't think J.I.Case cared much for Henry Wallis at all.

For years I was always confused as to different dates and things I have come across talking about Henry Wallis until one time I came across a piece talking about Henry Wallis and Henry Wallis Jr. For some reason I missed the fact that there were in fact two people named Henry Wallis.

When I went to the 150th show in Racine, WI I visited the grave yard and seen the grave site of Jessie Case Wallis and next to it was the grave of Henry Mitchell Wallis Jr. I thought it was kind of strange that he was born in 1888 and passed away in 1941 and when I walked over to the site of J.I.Case  it showed him Passing in 1892. I remember thinking wow this Henry Wallis was only 4 years old when J.I.Case passed away how could he possibly be the President of the tractor company??  At the time I didn't even think to look for another grave site for Henry Wallis Sr. but I am sure it is there somewhere.

I was going to post this on the other thread pertaining to Wallis Parts lists but I didn't want to stray away from the subject anymore than I already have. I just think this is an interesting piece of history I found on page 71 of this book. I am sure Jerome I. Case had nothing to do with writing this for the public to see, just reading it sounds like something Henry Wallis himself wrote of him and his son Henry Jr.

Joe

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Posted: 3/22/2014 6:57:40 PM
   

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A few days ago I had a trip into Saskatchewan with a friend to visit a Museum he is involved with.
At the museum was this very nice model OK Wallis that hasn't run for quite some time.
The engine is currently stuck so we removed the plugs and poured in some diesel.

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Posted: 3/29/2014 8:08:26 AM
   

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Graham,

That is a really nice looking OK, next time you are up there it wouldn't hurt to put a piece of wood under the wheels to get it up off the ground to help perserve the wheels. If your lucky by the time you get back there the diesel will have worked it's magic and it will be loose and you will possibly hear it run!!

Gary, I really don't think I should show you this as it may compleatly discourage you from ever possibly owning a Wallis but I feel you should at least be warned of what can go wrong just so we can keep you arround a couple more years....

This is the perfect example to show what happens when you have too much advance on your magneto. John has been working with crank tractors for over 20 years so kickback is not new to him, but just a reminder of what can happen....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYOjaqWYDJI

Joe


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