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Posted: 8/7/2012 7:05:03 AM
   

RE:Wallis Tractors

Couple of points I would like to raise with Joe and Tom about my Wallis 15-27.

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First do many Wallis (or indeed or other makes) have these type of one sided lugs?  Joe also note that they are a bit worn on the corners like you were questioning a while back.  I don't ever recall seeing these type of lugs over here or at shows in N America.

Secondly do you find many Wallis 15-27s or others with the PTOs?

John

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Posted: 8/8/2012 5:32:49 PM
   

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Hi John, According to the parts book those lugs (#4369LC #4369RC) were used on the OK's and early 20-30 / 15-27. I have seen a few Wallis with these lugs over the years but not many. They were a revised version of the older style single bolts Wallis lugs used on the Cub jr, K-3, K, and some OK's. The great feature of lugs like yours is they have a small lip that rolls over the edge of the wheel and keeps the lugs from spinning where the old style usually worked loose and spun if not taken care of leaving the round circles you usually see on early wallis wheels. Joe's OK picture earlier has the same style lugs.


Also on the PTO.  I guess I do not remember seeing other 15-27's with pto but it is possible to add a pto to any of the 15-27 if wanted from a normal 20-30.

Here is a picture of my Wallis pto setup. according to the parts book this would be optional for the cub Jr and K. Someday I want to get it mounted up. I have everything rebuilt, just need a brake drum like the orchard 15's and the chain shrouds. I guess I need another K to put it on.

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Posted: 8/30/2012 9:46:13 PM
   

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Kansas fellow here trying to restore (but 1st get running) a 1929 Wallis 20-30.  Have any of you used the original felt "donuts" in the filter or is there a replacement cartridge type filter that will work?  Also looking for a junk gas-water tank for the hardware.  Thanks for any advice and help.


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Posted: 8/31/2012 5:47:37 AM
   

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Try Ervin Chew in IN.  He makes wonderful repro gas tanks identical to the originals plus tops.  Have had several off him with complete satisfaction.  Not worth messing with an old one.

John


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Posted: 11/4/2012 10:07:39 AM
   

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This thread looks a little slow so I thought I would give it a boost again.  I was at the local Tractor Supply Company store yesterday in Rochester and noticed that the Legacy Quarterly Magazine has made it into the big league now and is on the news stand there!! Congratulations Gary & Sue!!

The reason it cought my eye is because of the Wallis 20-30 owned by Tom and Cindy Jansen of Effingham, Illinois was on the cover and usually you don't see much for Wallis stuff on the cover of any magazine anywhere.

Then much to my surprise just several feet away was yet another picture of a Wallis 20-30 on the front page of the Vintage Tractors 2013 calendar by Brown trout publications Inc. On the front cover it has the Massey Harris name on the hood and in the backround on a people mover you can see it says Ol??? ACRES on the side but can't make it out also there is a Styled 25 with the yellow leter M in the picture. If you look in the picture for May it is the same picture as on the front cover but all this is wiped out to doll up the picture.

Does anyone reconize any of these tractors or where this picture was taken?? Is it one of our MCA members collection?? They don't look familar to me, but it looks like the owner has a nice looking collection of U Frames and quite possibly has many more??

This is one of the frusterating things about being a collector, You spend thousands of dollars putting a collection together and someone with a camera comes along and has you spend all day getting them out and lining them up for pictures then publishes a nice looking calendar that makes them all kinds of money and will not even give you cedit for owning them by publishing your name  under the picture. Just my thoughts, Whats yours??

If they would at least put a name or a location of where the picture was taken it could quite possibly lead collectors to a new best friend just as many of the shows we go to do, again Just my thoughts.

Joe 

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Posted: 11/4/2012 10:41:21 AM
   

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Joe,

I know what you are saying.

I think the best strategy as a general principle is don't let anyone commercial have anything for free when it comes to photos and articles - and always get the temrs agreed in advance.  If it is a club magazine then that is different.

It is also getting a bit the same with some of our commercial shows where you take a tractor or whatever along at great expense in terms of transport costs (now horrendous when you factor in tax, insurance and depreciation on top of fuel), overnight accomodation and subsistence.  We put all this in to make their show on which they profit from their gate fees - and often they will only give you a single pass with none for your partner

Food for thought - up to folks to make their own decisions!

John



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Posted: 11/4/2012 5:53:09 PM
   

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Joe,

That is an interesting qusetion about the pictures and their use.  SuperT took several pics of the I-330 and I assume he (be a professional photographer) has the rights to do with them as he sees fit (including selling them).  Next time I see him I will be asking!!

As for the calendars, I looked at the publishers website (they are located in CA but have sales people around the world!) and they have published no less than 6-8 tractor calendars for 2013.  I am sure none of the tractor owners are identified.  There is a nice Ferguson 40 utility among them.  It might be Heffners??  There is what looks to be a General in several of the calendars.  Some are the same picture. Most look to be professional pics that were staged.  The one you posted looks like it might have been at some show but that is about the only one that looks that way.  I would guess the professionals are getting the "opportunity" to share their find!!

I guess if they don't identify the tractor they don't have to be worried about the owners coming after them. 

It will be interesting to see what Dave has to say!!  He has always been good to tell me where they might be headed for use before he sends them.

I will let you know!

GTE


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Posted: 11/7/2012 9:27:56 AM
   

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Fellow Kansas here, what hardware are you needing?  as far as a oil filter one for a early 4020 j.d. will work any auto parts store should have it.


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Posted: 1/23/2013 6:57:45 PM
   

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I finally got logged back on again! thanks Gary.

Anyway this post was on the fifth page so I thought an update was in order.

I got these wheels back a couple weeks ago. Spokes are next on the list to get remade!

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Posted: 1/24/2013 2:57:40 AM
   

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Hello and welcome back Tom, good to see your Wallis wheel rim progress.

Here is what I have been doing to my early K, many of the spokes were broken with loose rivets, some were bolted together etc, so it was time to make new spokes and get them riveted in place on both front wheels.
Now the front axle is off and at our "Massey Machine Shop" in the West, where new king pins, bushes, trunion pin etc are all being replaced.

Malcolm. 


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