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RE:Challenger

Buck,

I thought you be interested to see this picture of  the serial number of our red kerosene Pacemaker  that has been changed where it is stamped in the frame.
I have seen two like this, it seems that the first of the styled kerosene Pacemakers had there numbers changed. I am not sure if it was the same on Challengers, maybe Dennis can tell us.
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RE:Challenger

That is a very interesting pacemaker / challenger combination!

I just got home from Montana Yesterday so now I have some time to look at the new post's. If you can get the number off of the frame or confirm if the challenger serial number is the one on the frame also.

The one big question I have is in the rear platform area. it definitely looks like a bunch of orchard parts but the rear irons that go from the drawbar to the rear end do no look like any other orchard I have seen. I would also like to know the measurement from the platform to somewhere on the rear end casting so I can compare with mine because I am thinking the platform on your tractor is slightly higher than most orchards I have seen. In the parts book for the PA they do list part numbers for a regular pacemaker with turning brakes as an option that appears to be a different setup than the orchards but I have not seen one yet. Thanks!

RE:Challenger

Here is a picture of an orchard compared with your tractor.
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RE:Challenger

HI guys, thanks for your time, effort and information. Looks like its caused a few thinking caps to work overtime. I will attach another pic for you to investigate. Additional information, the fenders are 12" wide compared to the narrower red pacemaker fenders. Buck
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RE:Challenger

Hello everybody
John, Green PAO's do have a set back front axle just like Red PAO's . I need to learn how to get photos on here! Maybe Malcolm has a Green photo of a set back axle?
 Graham I have not seen the stamped over serial nos. The distillate Ch's had 140000 nos. I have only seen two of these 140146 &140414
Tom The rear platform is different. Not so much in height but certainlydifferent drawbar attachment strap irons. 
Dennis

RE:Challenger

I just noticed in the last picture he posted why it looks like a differentheight. There are spacers under the back platform that raise it about 1.500", but the brackets are definitely different.

RE:Challenger

Here you go Dennis here is your green OPA taken under the Massey Tent at the Baraboo Expo last year.

Malcolm.
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RE:Challenger

Very nice orchard. We have never seen them down under. Different curved rear platform brackets and mine measures 340mm from the top of the diff ledge to the foot platform. Mine seems to be a bit of a miss match between orchard and ....who knows. Buck