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Posted: 3/3/2014 2:47:32 PM
   

RE:Wallis and Massey Harris parts book list

Graham,

I have very little literature on the Wallis 15-27 but I do have some just can't find it right now.

Here are some pieces I found that will soothe your taste buds for now....

The first one is very dirty, I believe it rode in a toolbox for some time. It is a very thick paper so it survived. It is only a fold over so it has only 4 pages with front cover being page 1 and back cover being page 4

The second one I posted along time ago so you may have seen it before. It is very fragile so I scanned the front, middle and back so I will have it on file and don't have to keep opening it up when I want to see it. It is only a fold over so it has only 4 pages with front cover being page 1 and back cover being page 4

Keep digging this is fun!!

Joe


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Posted: 3/4/2014 9:57:58 AM
   

RE:Wallis and Massey Harris parts book list

Thanks Joe,

Its great to see all this stuff.I would like to see the inside of the PTO book, is it readable? 
The next question I have is there a later 20-30 instruction book for the Massey Harris and Wallis 20-30s with plain blocks and oil filters 


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Posted: 3/4/2014 11:28:12 AM
   

RE:Wallis and Massey Harris parts book list

Digging in another pile I come across this 9 X 11.5 inch book for the New Wallis OK. It is 16 pages long with the front cover being page 1 and the back cover being page 16. It is in rough shape so I took pictures of the hole book so you can see it all and I don't have to page through it again.

Tom, you will like the part about plowing the heavy gumbo in the Red River Valley.

Joe

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Posted: 3/4/2014 12:32:53 PM
   

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Graham,

I don't think there is a book showing the plain block 20-30 with an oil filter. There is a picture of an engine with the oil filter in the later un styled 25 book but that is just a bit different engine as it if for the 25s.

Here are the pictures of the PTO brochure it is dirty but still readable. It if pretty much the same info you see in the Massey Harris Wallis 20-30 grey covered paper back book.

Joe

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Posted: 3/4/2014 12:48:31 PM
   

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Graham,

Here is another Operation manual for the Certified Tractor It is very similar to the one you posted but has a different cover than the others. Could this be the 15-27 one we are looking for??

Unlike yours this one doesn't mention a Pickering governor or a Kingston governor.... It doesn't mention any governor at all... It is 34 pages long.

On page 17 there is an insert pasted in for Instructions on the Cam Shaft No.5667A It mentions it is used on Wallis 20-30 tractors after Serial # 57208. This must be when they switched to the cam shaft gear driven oil pump off the back of the camshaft and got away from the plunger pump running off the center of the camshaft. What do you think??

Joe

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Posted: 3/5/2014 5:24:18 AM
   

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I am pleased to see the snow and cold of North America has brought about some fruitfull advantage for Massey Collectors with Graham and Joe contributing some valuable information from time consuming research of the various Wallis manuals and parts books, obviously the trip across the pond got Graham enthused and getting back home to snow and cold has allowed him to study all the books in fine detail.
Following our discussions here in January there is a lot more clarity to the early tractors and I am sure more information will emerge as time allows and being available on here is a valuable resource of information for all Wallis collectors, always good when information can be grouped together and shared as we all continue the learning process. Now I understand my early K more and why the serial number is so different, so thanks for coming across and telling me Graham.

Keep posting.

Malcolm.
 





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Posted: 3/5/2014 10:11:38 AM
   

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I think we have to thank Tom for starting this thread and Malcolm for coppying the Cub jr parts book so I could look at them more closely once I got home. It has got me to dig through my books and realize I unknowingly had the 22K parts book.
The interesting thing I found from that book was the early Ks having the internal oil suction screen same as the Cub jr.




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Posted: 3/5/2014 10:29:29 AM
   

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Now back to the 15-27 instruction book. I think the 15-27 and early 20-30s would have J I Case Plow Works and not Massey Harris on cover of the books, also the gear drive oil pump would start with the 20-30 at #52001. Although there are K-OK and 15-27 parts books 24 & 25 that can be found with both Massey Harris and J I Case on the cover.
I think the reason for this is that Massey Harris would have to supply dealers with parts books for older tractors after the take over of the Plow Works.

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Posted: 3/5/2014 12:25:38 PM
   

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Graham,

I just got done scanning this picture of the two different number 25 parts lists and noticed you already posted a picture of yours talking about the different name ( The Massy~Harris Co.) and ( J.I.Case Plow Works, Inc.)  Tom, are you catching this? now there is another version to add to your list. This picture is just a bit clearer so you can see the differences in the tractors.

I don't know if you noticed it or not but I looked at these books about 100 times before and just now noticed they are two different tractor pictures. The Plow works tractor has the earlier wheels and the Massey Harris has a taller air stack and no crank on the front.

I still can't figure out the earlier post about the cam shaft change on tractors 57208 and up. I looked in later book Parts list number 26 and it says this new part number 5667A is a camshaft with Gear and if you want just a cam shaft only to order part number 4770A. In the earlier Parts list number 25 ( these two books pictured below ) it lists the cam shaft as being part number 5214A so for some reason there was a cam shaft change in there for reason. I haven't had a later 20-30 apart, is the cam shaft gear put on with a key way and bolted on??

Joe

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Posted: 3/5/2014 1:32:42 PM
   

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Tom,

I know you started this thread out as Wallis and Massey Harris Parts book list but I seem to be running out of books to talk about. Maybe some one else out there has some to add to the list?

Being we are talking about early Wallis literature already I hope you don't mind if I add some more stuff to this to this thread even though it is not parts books or operators manuals I will try to keep it pertaining to the early Wallis stuff. Maybe along the way talking about some of this stuff more will surface in terms of the Parts and Operation manuals.

I know there are many people watching this thread as some have already phoned me up and told me so.. To spark some interest in other people here is an early Wallis ad that when I saw it I immediately  thought of one of our newest people on this site (Bob Parke) as he owns one of the very few Sawyer Massey Wallis Tractors that I know of.

When looking at this ad it really took me for surprise that it stated that Sawyer Massey had been selling and servicing Wallis tractors eight years before the take over of the Wallis company by Massey Harris, could this be possible? or is it a misprint.

Joe

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