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Posted: 3/8/2014 2:37:46 PM
   

What does it mean?

I know some one that has a 101 JR. On top of the transmission is stamped J S C with the serial # below it of 378812. Does any one know what the J S C stands for. I'm guessing that the J stands for Junior and the S for standard, but have no guess on the C
Also on the serial # plate, below the serial # is stamped H A. Any ideas on what the H A stands for. The H A looks to have been done with a different style of stamps and maybe at a later date.

Steve

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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:43:29 PM
   

RE:What does it mean?

Steve,  
  Perhaps the C you are mentioning, is really a G for Gas.  Other models are done that way.  I am not sure but this does make some sense.  Tim Pace


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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:56:01 PM
   

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Tim, it is diffinetly a C. If it is a G, it's very poorly stamped or a bad die. Some one on another furom suggested it might stand for Canada. I don't know.  Thanks for the reply

Steve

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Posted: 3/11/2014 8:01:55 PM
   

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Hi Steve,

HA usually stands for High Altitude but not sure they made them for the 101s!!  Don't know about the "C".  I'm like Tim, it might be a worn down G.  Can you get some pics??

Gary



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Posted: 3/11/2014 8:15:37 PM
   

RE:What does it mean?

I am pretty sure John has a Hi Altitude 101 jr in his collection. Also on the " C " it could possibly be for the gears in the rear end. I know they have what is known as the A Gears and the B Gears it is very possible there were also C Gears. The only difference in these gears is the number of teeth that makes the tractor go faster or slower. Usually they were slower if the tractor came with steel wheels. I know I have seen this "C" stamp on top of other 101s and 102s before so yours is not the only one out there.

Joe


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Posted: 3/12/2014 7:25:18 AM
   

RE:What does it mean?

The  J S C is stamped on top of the transmission, the C is not on the serial # plate. The HA is stamped on the serial # plate below the serial #, like it was added after wards. Appears to have been done with a different stamp
As far as pictures, this is on another tractor forum. I have a different internet provider and am have problems coping and pasting from one to another

Steve

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Posted: 3/12/2014 10:20:49 AM
   

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Steve,

I went out and snapped a couple pictures of some of 101 Jrs out in the shed and am now more puzzled than before. I was always under the impression these stamped letters were for the type of gears in the rear end but now am not so sure about that.

The one thing I came up with is that the lower the serial number the lower the letter and the newer tractors seem to have a B,C,E and so on. Do you think possibly they started with some sort of a lettering system similar to what the Case tractors had to signify the year it was made?? Here are just some I looked at:

J R A 397199
J R B 500691
J R E 504095
J R E 504200

What do you think??

Joe

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Posted: 3/12/2014 10:52:03 AM
   

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Steve,

In my last post all the tractors were Row Crops here are a two others that I have that are Standards also your number that you listed. As you can see the letter goes up as the number gets bigger. I was always under the impression the letter "D" stamped on my tractors was because these tractors are Distillate tractors but again am not so sure about that now. The first one is a 102 jr Standard the second is a 102 jr Distillate and the 3rd is a 102 Senior Distillate.

J S C 378812 (the tractor you were talking about)

J S D 379871 (102 Jr standard)

J S D 386524  (102 Jr Distillate)

S D 365914 (102 Senior Distillate)

Do you think the "J" means Junior, The "S" means Standard and the "C and D" being the mystery letters could have something to do with the year made??

Also on the last picture the "S" could stand for "Senior" and leave the "D" being the Mystery letter could be for the year the tractor was made??

Joe


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Posted: 3/12/2014 3:25:22 PM
   

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Steve,

The tractor you are talking about is very close to Serial number as John's. As you can see his has the oval tag that reads 101 JR-5  Maybe they did not have tags made up for a High Altitude tractor when #378812 was made?

One other thing I thought of is the "H A" may have been a previous owners initials. I have seen this before on different tractors as theft must have been a big problem years ago. I even ran across a Fordson tractor that had the mans full name welded in the front axel.

I was crushing at one of my regular customers place just outside Fairmont, MN last December and he was telling me a neighbor of his took his Moline tractor to the dealer in town back in the early 1960s and wile it was in the dealers lot it got stolen. They have been looking for that tractor ever since then. Just last summer another neighbor just two miles outside town died and his kids decided to have an auction. The guy who lost his tractor years earlier always wanted one like it back and seen there was one on his auction of the same model as what he had so decided to have a go at it. When he got to the auction site and looked the tractor over he soon noticed it was the same serial numbered tractor he had stolen from him years earlier so went home to check his paperwork and call the police. He ended up getting his tractor back free of charge so he was happy about that but couldn't believe all these years it was so close to him and yet hidden In plain sight as he remembered seeing this man in the field using it over the years. I guess he figured that no one could be that stupid to steel a tractor and use it right in front of him so it got overlooked.  I am sure he figured being so close to the Interstate HWY that it got hauled away never to be seen again..

Joe

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