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Posted: 5/15/2017 11:03:49 AM
   

New member with a new project!

Hello everyone,

I've just joined the club and thought I'd say hello and post a few photos of my new project - a gorgeous 1936 Pacemaker that I understand was found in Wainwright-Canada, two years ago, and brought into the UK.

He's not a runner, but having now had it a few weeks, I've had a chance to look over most of it and I can't see any major problems. Lots of little ones though!

There are a few bits and pieces missing and a lot to sort out - no doubt you'll see some new threads from me over coming weeks....

The engine wasn't stuck but the valves were siezed and some bent pushrods etc.. thank goodness the valves have eased off nicely and are all free now. The cylinders look in great condition although they had an unbelievable amount of debris and dead animals in them. Its the only time I've ever had to hoover out cylinders!

The radiator has rot out in the usual place, and the carb is already with Stan Howe. Magneto didnt work but does now, etc etc etc.... The whole of the choke and heat flap controls are missing which is probably biggest issue although hopefully wont prevent starting.

Well this will keep me out of mischief anyway, hope to be in a position to try and start it in August. I did say TRY, and start it :-)

Anyway, cheers 4now,

Jon Morley.


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Posted: 5/15/2017 11:51:52 AM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Hi John,

Welcome to the forum and to that rare breed of MH enthusiasts in the UK.

That looks like a very nice green Pacemaker you have aquired and I am sure that it will make a nice tractor.  It is so very original that I hope you will keep it that way.  Just fix all that needs fixing mechanically and there are a surprising number of excellent repro parts about that are identical to the originals.  I am sure we can help you when the time comes.  It's also amazing what a good machine tool shop can do for you.

So all the best with the project and all the best
John

PS Whereabouts are you in the UK - I am in N wales


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Posted: 5/15/2017 2:17:06 PM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Hi John,

Oh yes, he'll be staying in this original clothing - the metalwork is in fabulous condition and I shall just keep it oiled.

I should have said it is serial number 107797.

I am in Weston super Mare - North Somerset so not all that far away from you - the same side of the country at least.

I wasn't aware that any parts of any kind are available - please point me in the right direction!

Cheers, Jon.  


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Posted: 5/15/2017 3:03:39 PM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Jon,

Just let us know what you are after and we will endeavour to help

John


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Posted: 5/16/2017 11:16:02 PM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Hi Jon,

Glad you were able to get on.  You have a great looking original tractor tractor there.  And you are already finding out there are some great collectors in the UK that will give you all the parts you need!!  LOL!!  They might not give them to you but I am sure they will be happy to help you in whatever you might need!!

Have fun and keep us posted on your project! And don't be afraid to ask questions!!

Gary


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Posted: 6/19/2017 2:17:45 AM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Had a visitor all the way from Somerset on Saturday morning, we spent most of the day talking and looking over all things M-H, managed to get two of the Green Pacemaker's running, just to give Jon a little bit of encouragement through the next few months until he gets to the point of hearing his own tractor running for the very first time.

Here is a photo of Jon amongst the Pacemaker's, I am fairly sure he will be back again for another visit.

Thanks for the Somerset beer and cider Jon, very welcomed these hot days at the moment.

Malcolm

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Posted: 8/12/2017 4:03:53 PM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Hello all, 

Well the rebuild is is well underway now. Replacing the water pump I just noticed that the fan belt is an original MH part as per the photos which made me wonder how old it is....

Hence, does anyone know when could you last buy a MH fan belt like this? 

The belt is fairly cracked up but a surprisingly snug fit and will readily do another turn to help keep the authenticity 👍

Cheers 4now, Jon. 

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Posted: 8/24/2017 2:23:37 AM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Looks like your making good progress on the Pacemaker Jon, its cleaning up nicely with some very nice original paintwork showing. Expect by now you have your carburettor back, hopefully the radiator will not be much longer and you will soon be ready to hear it run.

Attached is a photo of a fan belt I took off a Pacemaker a few years ago, it is from the Massey Harris Ferguson period.

If you do need to replace your belt on the Pacemaker it's a "C43" which are still available and the 25 is slightly larger "C45" just put one of those on my Power Unit.

Malcolm.

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Posted: 8/26/2017 3:45:24 AM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Hello all,

Yeap he's coming on nicely Malcolm. The carburettor is still in Montana at the moment - Stan tells me that when he had it on test it was seeping petrol through the bowl and stem seals where it was still a bit corroded, hence he is now having to build it up and machine a smooth surface back in those areas 😳 Serious stuff. 

Ignition is all now fitted with a healthy spark. I've spent the last few evenings digging and hoovering out what feels like half a fields worth of soil out of the air box! It is adequately clean inside now. 

3 questions though:-

1. In photo 1 and 2 - is that hole at the top meant to be there - it would appear to allow air to bypass the oil puddle and I can't find any reference to such an aperture. Maybe it needs a bypass but seems a little odd to me. 

2. Any tips on what alternative to wire wool to use as an air filter medium? I hate wire wool with a passion - and I don't want to risk ingesting bits of wire into my newly rebuilt carb! 

3. I have timed the impulse as mentioned before, and now timed the magneto where you turn it back to -35degs after the impulse trips.... but given that there is the free play in the impulse drive I'm finding it rather difficult to verify that the timing is still correct after a couple of cranks. Maybe I don't need to as it is as set up perfectly but any tips appreciated. 

Cheers 4now Jon. 



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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:25:49 PM
   

RE:New member with a new project!

Hello All,

Well the carburettor has returned, and with the last few bits and pieces done I've been trying to start him up.....

It does start, but it doesn't yet run. 

Good compression has come back on cylinders 2 and 3. 1 and 4 is ok but not great.

It will happily start over and over again no problem, and it is now running for 6-8 seconds before it stops. A couple of times it started to run up before then stopping. Adjusting main jet from 1 to 4 turns seems to make little difference although when it started to accelerate it was at 3 turns. It has run long enough to verify good oil pressure and this evening it has started maybe 10 times so its warmed up the manifolds and even slightly the head.

However.....there is a fair bit of fuel flooding out of the carb air inlet so I am suspecting that when it starts it is just pulling through too much fuel through the valve and its flooding it out. 

Anyone experienced this before? 

Planning to remove the carb tomorrow and check out the float/valve.

Cheers 4now.  


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